Breaking Bad fans would have been pretty hyped to finally hear of a confirmed date for the final season (August 11, FYI) and the series’ creator Vince Gilligan recently sat down with New York Magazine to talk The End of the Walter White saga. This chat is pretty comprehensive (you might wanna prepare a beverage before getting into it) and gives us a real in-depth perspective of Gilligan’s creative process, what he really thinks of the characters and the show’s impact on impressionable viewers. And as far as the ending goes? According to Gilligan, “it’s a somewhat happy ending, in my estimation.” Excited yet?

Read the full interview here.